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Travel with the Non-auditioned Choir, Part 3: Immersing Your Singers in the Local Culture

December 9, 2020 by From Our Readers Leave a Comment

By Patricia Guth

Traveling with a non-auditioned and (often) mostly older choir is far different than taking your professional, high school, or college ensemble on tour. If you read the first two installations of this blog, you’ll recall that I talked a lot about the importance of choosing the right tour company and destination, the pacing of the trip, concert venues and audiences, and balancing sightseeing and singing with free time. In this portion of the blog, we’ll chat a little about providing your singers with a truly immersive experience.

Choosing the right hotels

You might think where you sleep each night has nothing to do with allowing your ensemble to embed itself in the culture of the nation to which they are traveling. But it actually has a lot to do with it!

There are two ways to look at hotel options. The first consideration deals with price. If you are traveling with high schoolers or young adults and endeavoring to keep prices down, you’ll likely choose a 3-star hotel on the outskirts of wherever it is you’re visiting. For many ensembles, that’s the way to go. It’s almost always less expensive and will certainly be suitable as, in most cases, your singers won’t be going off on their own. That means proximity to attractions won’t matter a lot.

However, for my non-auditioned choir, which includes many women who are well traveled, we’ve discovered that there’s much more to choosing a hotel than just finding affordable lodging. For this type of adult ensemble, having a few extra comforts is important. A lovely on-site restaurant and bar, or a pool and spa, for example, are perks that add a bit more to the hotel experience. And, of course, rooms with working air-conditioners seem to be paramount for American travelers, whenever possible.

But what we found to be most important is finding a good hotel in the city center or in a location close to public transportation where a jaunt into the city is simple. When we were in Budapest and Helsinki, for example, we stayed at hotels that were literally steps from museums, shopping, and other amenities. In Salzburg, we couldn’t stay in the center of the town but the bus station was right behind our chosen hotel and many of our singers took advantage of the city’s easy-to-navigate transportation during our free night there.

So, before you agree to lodgings, take some time to research the hotels you’re offered to be sure they fit the needs of your group. Not what you want? Ask your tour company rep what you can get for a slightly higher price and trim your costs elsewhere, if necessary.

What about meals?

Finding food that makes everyone happy can be tricky. We all have different eating habits. Some eat little. Others will think they haven’t gotten their money’s worth. You’ll likely also have vegetarians and vegans on your trip as well as those with medically necessary dietary restrictions.  As such, no group meal will please all.

It’s hard to work around this but we’ve found that if your tour company selects a meal and restaurant that reflects the local palette, you’ll at least be allowing your choir members the opportunity to get a taste of the flavors of your destination, even if they’re not nuts about them. (Just make sure dessert is phenomenal and everyone will walk away happy!)

While most tour companies will see that breakfast is included daily and will likely schedule a few group dinners during your travels, it’s often a wise idea to include opportunities for your travelers to go off on their own and find something to eat that truly floats their boat. For some, it might be the local pizza parlor. For others, it may be way more exotic!

Unscheduled lunches followed by free time are ideal for exploring local restaurants. I fondly recall happening upon a great outdoor cafe in the central square in Tallinn, Estonia, and enjoying what was probably one of the greatest meals of my life…and it was all by chance.

So, that said, don’t feel the need to plan every meal. Leave some food experiences to chance and your singers will no doubt experience some extraordinary culinary highs.

Scheduling cultural activities for your ensemble

When I was the conductor of a youth choir that traveled domestically, we made it a habit to schedule bowling and laser tag during every tour. It was something to which we all looked forward and we joked that it was the only time I could “shoot” the kids.

With my women’s chorus, we have chosen cooking as our must-do activity on each journey. During every tour, we participate in a cooking class at a local restaurant or cooking school, where we learn to make delicious local cuisine. Thanks to our tour organizers at KI Concerts, we’ve worked together to craft full meals in Carignano (Tuscany), Vienna, and Tallinn thus far, and then together enjoyed the fruits of our labor around a table filled with smiles. Our cooking school in Vienna even presented us with aprons embroidered with our first names and chef hats we could wear while cooking, as well as diplomas at the end of the class. It was magical and joyous and we sang as we cooked!

Of course, if cooking doesn’t appeal to your group, there are many other options. You might consider folk dance lessons, for example, or anything that speaks of the area you’re visiting and allows the ensemble to work together towards producing an end result, be it a meal or something else. We chose cooking because everyone can do it (including the men!), it’s ideal for large groups, and it’s fun (especially with a little extra wine on hand!). Nonetheless, if that doesn’t appeal to you, ask your tour company for other ideas.

Go for it!

There’s so much to consider when planning a tour and just thinking about it can be intimidating. If you’ve contemplated touring with your non-auditioned choir and aren’t sure whether it’s something you want to tackle, know that every tour we’ve done has represented one of the highest points in my choir’s history. With the right tour company, a well-thought out itinerary, great singing venues, and an adventurous group of singers, your experiences and those of your ensemble members will be unforgettable and pretty darn near picture-perfect.

We’ll be heading to Ireland in 2022 for our 10th anniversary and already have dozens who’ve indicated interest in the tour! It’s not too early to plan something to which your choir can look forward after a vaccine is available. Here’s to happy, COVID-free days when we can sing and travel together again!

I hope you’ve found this blog series helpful and am happy to answer any questions and further share our travel experiences with my community choir colleagues. Feel free to contact me at .

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Travel with the Non-auditioned Choir – Part 2: The Ideal Itinerary

November 25, 2020 by From Our Readers Leave a Comment

By Patricia Guth

In my last blog, I wrote in detail about choosing a tour company and a destination that are right for the make-up of your non-auditioned choir. To review, things to consider include a company that truly understands your singing organization and plans for them accordingly, as well as a locale that is suited to the age, mobility, and interests of your group.

Once you’ve decided on a suitable performance tour destination for your ensemble as well as determined the proper length of the trip, it’s time to think about the daily itinerary. The way each day is planned is so important to the well-being of your group, especially when you’re journeying with older travelers, which is very often the case with non-auditioned choirs included both community and church ensembles.

First things first

Obviously, the most important part of any performance tour itinerary is the concerts. You’ll want your choir to be provided with the best possible performance opportunities; concerts that they’ll remember for years to come in locations that are unlike any you’ve previously experienced. We’ve had those, even on our first trip, which didn’t go quite as well as our others.

While you might think that the ultimate performance location is opulent, elegant, historic, and so forth, what we’ve discovered is that the most meaningful and memorable concerts aren’t always in grand churches or old palaces.

While we’ll likely never forget singing in Helsinki’s famed “Rock Church” or at Salzburg’s Residenz Palace, other less-grand performances continue to permeate my memory and will always be amongst our most epic travel moments.

There was the small community center in Venice, where you could open the windows behind us and hear the gondoliers singing on the canals outside. Add to that the joy on the face of the tiny Italian woman who sang every word of Over the Rainbow with us. Magical! And the senior home in Bruck an der Letha (near Vienna), where a group of residents – most of whom couldn’t speak English – were so obviously touched by our singing that they hugged us again and again, thanking us with their best danke, then feeding us apple strudel and sachertorte until we could eat no more! Truly unforgettable!

Hence, we discovered that the people for whom we perform are often more important than the location of the concert. This is where we – as directors – need to put our egos aside and recognize that the size of the room doesn’t always equate with the depth of the experience. Rather, the size of your heart and the swell of your love for singing and sharing music is much more important.

Of course, emotions aside, you’ll also want to check on some logistics. Make sure that the concert locations are easy to reach on foot and/or are close to bus parking (see my first blog where I spoke about walking a mile on cobblestones to a concert location in Italy), that there are ample and easy-to-reach restrooms, and that risers or stages aren’t too steep or hard to reach and are comfortable for your singers, especially your older members.

We’ve found that 3 concerts on a 10-day tour is ample, avoiding the first full day and last day of the trip. Jet lag at the beginning and worries about packing and buying last minute souvenirs at the end make those difficult days for performances.

And then there’s collaboration. Most tour companies will happily pair you with local choirs for joint concerts and, for us, these have been so very special. A clever tour company like ours will do everything possible to match you with a choir similar to yours. One of our favorite memories, for example, is a performance and post-concert social with a non-auditioned mixed voice choir in Stockholm.  Like my singers, they exuded a joy for singing and showed it!  We could have talked for hours and many of us are still in touch with singers from that group. So, don’t miss that opportunity to share the stage and much more!

It’s all about pacing

Have you ever come home from a trip proclaiming that you need a vacation from your vacation? Often, it takes you a week to recover!!

While it’s okay, of course, to be pleasantly exhausted by the time you get home, I’ve discovered that it’s really no fun to deal with a bunch of overtired choir members each and every day of the tour. Eliminating that problem comes from working closely with your tour company to draft a daily itinerary that’s suitable to the age and stamina of your singers.

While directors of high school and college ensembles want to keep their students as busy as possible – simply to keep them out of trouble – that doesn’t need to be the case with adults. While touring, we opt for a pleasant mix of singing, sightseeing, and free time. While we make sure that we get to the see the highlights of each destination, we incorporate that free time so that our very capable adults can make their own choices, be it a nap in their hotel room or a trip to that art museum or botanical garden they’re always wanted to visit. Free time provides options, and when you’re traveling with a group of independent adults, it’s okay for them to wander off on their own or, if they prefer, spend their time in the hotel bar. That built-in free time allows for each person to exercise their individuality!

So, as you and your tour company are crafting each day’s itinerary, make sure that there are some days available for sleeping in, others with free afternoons, and some with nights where your singers can head to the opera, a nightclub, or simply take in their destination under the lights. It’s okay if you don’t do everything as one big group!

Coming up next: Tips for immersing your choir in local culture; choosing the right flights, hotels, and dining.

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Travel with the Non-Auditioned Choir – Part 1: Getting Started

November 11, 2020 by From Our Readers Leave a Comment

By Patricia Guth

Traveling may be the furthest thing from your mind right now. Or it may be at the forefront of your thinking. If you’re like me – an extrovert with a fantastic case of wanderlust – you’ve probably figured out that in your spare time (and there’s plenty of it) you’ve had time to research some locations for your bucket list and have no doubt lamented all the lost opportunities for travel this year.

Personally, my husband and I missed out on a Mediterranean cruise with our son and family and my daughter and I had to cancel our girl getaway to Paris, carefully designed to celebrate our 25th and 60th birthdays.

Professionally, my choir was four weeks away from getting on a plane heading to Athens and the Greek Islands. We were so close. So close. And then everything came to a screeching halt. There would be no magical Mykonos nights. No Santorini sunsets. No early morning breakfasts on the rooftop of our hotel, which was to provide us with an amazing view of the Acropolis. We were crushed.

The reason for our immense sadness was not only because we wouldn’t see Greece and all of its beauty and history. That was certainly a big part of it. But the extreme disappointment stemmed from the fact that our choir travels have been among the most amazing moments in our nine years of singing together. Our trips to Italy, Hungary, Austria, Finland, Estonia, and Sweden have produced incredible musical highs and have strengthened the bonds of friendship in a way that can only come from the sharing of the amazing musical and cultural experiences we encounter on our choir tours, put together by a company that really gets us – a non-auditioned but immensely talented and enthusiastic group of singers that place fun and fellowship on par with singing.

Recently, I got up the nerve to start talking to my choir about travel again. Though we won’t go anywhere until spring 2022 – provided there’s a vaccine – it seemed like a good idea to bring up something to which we could look forward during this time when the uncertainty of the upcoming holidays – a time of joy for most – looms heavy on our hearts. I recognize that there are many like me who will jump on the bandwagon and sign up for a trip to just about anywhere, while there are others who will fear travel for some time. How sad! But I understand their hesitancies and respect their decisions.

Nonetheless, I’ve decided to go ahead with planning and will soon announce the dates and destination for our next trip. (Greece is iffy because part of the tour includes 5 days on a cruise ship, which makes many uncomfortable.) I’m doing this with guidance from my trip-planning friends at our concert tour company – who I trust and adore – and hope that my enthusiasm wears off on my singers.

While post-COVID travel may be a little different than travel of the past, I’m still approaching this 2022 tour using the same parameters I always do. Traveling with a non-auditioned group of adult singers – mostly over 55 – is a bit of a different animal than touring with high school or college kids, and over the years a number of things have emerged as factors that are of the utmost importance when making decisions about these tours.

Finding the right tour company

We learned the hard way that interviewing several tour companies before saying “yes” is the way to go. Mea culpa! I was so excited about our first performance tour that I booked the first company that presented me with an exciting tour at a seemingly good price.

What we discovered, however, was that they hadn’t listened to me at all regarding the make-up of the choir as well as the potential limitations of the members. Though we are a group that ranges in age from about 25-85, most of our travelers are NOT our young members, who are busy with children or just don’t have the money to pay for a tour. As such, most of our travelers are over 55 – many considerably older – and aren’t up for 12 hours of non-stop activity and tons of walking with little rest in between.

In addition, many of my singers are well-traveled and expecting a little more than stays at 3-star hotels on the outskirts of a city and eating lunch at highway rest stops. They want nice hotels, delicious meals, and free time to explore on their own . . . or just to rest. We didn’t get that the first time. It was all go-go-go, there was too much crowded into eight days, and the exhaustion often outweighed the experiences. While we still had a memorable time, a lot was lacking.

My current tour company – KI Concerts – truly listened to me before they even attempted to sell me on an itinerary. This included a personal visit to meet me and the choir, hours of chats and emails about my expectations and that of my travelers, and the willingness to create something special outside of their normal itineraries. The result has been two – and almost three – trips that were absolutely superb and fit my choir perfectly.

Choosing the ideal destination

Not all destinations are suitable for a choir like mine and it’s a lesson I learned after the first trip as well. I only wish that our first tour company had perhaps suggested I reconsider my choice and my wish list when I first approached them about going to Italy, which includes terrain that’s pretty tough on older singers, especially those with some mobility issues. Venice, while beautiful, was not our friend, so to speak, and trekking over a mile on cobblestones and over bridges from the Grand Canal area to our concert destination nearly did us in. While my choir did a bang-up job of singing for our guests, I know they dreaded the trip back to the area where we’d catch our boat back to our hotel. It put a damper on the experience.

In addition, we tried to fit too much into a limited number of days, which meant we were in constant movement with little rest except during drives on the motorcoach. It would have been nice if that tour company had suggested that maybe I reconsider my wishes. Perhaps 2 or 3 stops instead of 5 or 6 would have been more suitable.

So, when it was time to consider the next tour, I was more careful about choosing the right place for my choir members. The staff at KI and I had long talks about destination: places where the terrain was easy to navigate, concert locations that could be reached by bus or just a short walk, the ability to book hotels in the city center or near public transportation, and ways to immerse ourselves in the local culture, which is paramount for us.

So, while I’d love to go to Iceland, for example, I recognize that it’s more of a “natural” destination that probably wouldn’t fit the needs and wants of our group. Rather, the selection of a location with good museums, excellent hotel choices, delicious food, and wonderful singing venues is much more important to us. And while the choices we deem to be the optimal destinations might not be everyone’s dream destination, we’ve discovered that as long as we’re there together, making music for and with those who reside in those wonderful places, it doesn’t much matter where we end up.

In my next blog: Crafting an itinerary, special activities and events, and immersing your choir in the local culture.

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