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- December 10, 2011 at 8:08 am #302390Catherine Campbell-NesbitParticipantI conduct a chorale of much older singers – age 65 to 88. I have been working with them on ” I Will Sing with the Spirit” but as the tessitura of the piece sits quite high, I would like to see if anyone knows where I might get a transposed version of the piece for SATB? If anyone has a transposed version and would loan me a copy, I could use that to play from while accompanying the chorus. I would love to get the piece down a step at least. The piece is in A major. I could probably take it down to Aflat major on sight but would love to take it down further if I can locate a transposed version.Thank you,Catherine NesbitDecember 10, 2011 at 3:24 pm #302419John HowellParticipantCatherine: If you can’t locate a transposed version, make one! One of the provisions of Fair Use under U.S. law is permission to “edit or simplify purchased copies” if necessary. And most people never think about that provision or what it can actually do for them.All the best,JohnDecember 11, 2011 at 3:53 pm #302493John BickertonParticipantOne way would be to enter the score into a computer notation program like Sibelius. It would then do the transposition for you with just a few keystrokes. You could have someone enter the score if you’re unfamiliar with the program (any university music dept will have students skilled at music notation programs) The piece is not that long so it wouldn’t take that long to enter.Best of luckJohnDecember 12, 2011 at 10:19 pm #302611Lana MountfordParticipantCatherine —What the two Johns said! I do this often with my seniors choir.We’re not at a level where we can do SATB, so I purchase mostly 2-part music (or write/arrange it myself!). Most published two-part music is written for children’s choirs, so tessitura is often too high for my seniors. I enter the piece into Finale (my notation software of choice), and in two keystrokes, I can transpose it to whatever key I need — usually down a third. Depending on the piece, it takes 1-2 hrs to do the data entry (I’ve tried using the “scan” feature of the software, but find I have to do a lot of rework, so starting from scratch takes less time.(As an aside, we just gave our annual Christmas concert to a packed house last Saturday afternoon. I have 24 singers, age 64 to 102, many of whom have sung with the group from the beginning 4 years ago.)I’m hoping that publishers will someday recognize that there’s a population of baby-boomers coming along who want … no, NEED … to continue singing beyond age 65, and will consider publishing some simplified versions of pieces suitable for this age group. I know there are a couple of publishers of sacred music who are doing this (for the aging church choir), but I’m looking for things like show tunes, folks songs, etc.December 13, 2011 at 6:42 am #302626Catherine Campbell-NesbitParticipantThanks, Lana. Glad to know someone out there has even older choir members than I do. It is inspiring to see how people want to sing no matter their age or affliction.I do not have Sibelius or Finale but may be able to find someone who will do it for me. I also hope that publishers/composers will start to realize the need for music or transposed versions of their SATB music for older singers. I love John Rutter music ( as does my chorale) but it almost always “sits high” for older singers.I would love to know what repertoire you are using with your older choir and also what publishers of sacred music you have found for the “aging church choir”. I sometimes have the same problem with my church choir as many of the singers in that choir are also older and seriously balk at high notes.Thanks again,CatherineDecember 13, 2011 at 3:43 pm #302678Lana MountfordParticipantHi, Catherine —The best sacred music publisher I’ve found so far that is actually focusing on seniors is Lillenas Music — here: http://www.lillenas.com/nphweb/html/lmol/innerpage.jsp?c=LMOL&cs=CHOIR&sc=SENCH&ss=NA&nid=lcolOur holiday concerts feature mostly carols (I do a lot of those arrangements myself if the carol is public domain), plus one or two suitable 2-part “specials.” Our concert on Saturday included Ruth Artman’s “Night Before Christmas” set to “chopsticks,” which we could do as written, and Audrey Snyder’s arrangement of “The Snow Lay on the Ground” which I had to transpose and simplify a bit.You might find it worth the investment to get something like PrintMusic (a scaled-down version of Finale). The cost is reasonable (Amazon has Printmusic discounted at $79.95) and you’d have all the functionality you’d need to do these transpositions.Lana MountfordBellingham, WA
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