- January 28, 2017 at 10:09 am #534400Ron AlmeidaParticipant
For those who make practice recordings for your choir members… Which format do people use when burning the recordings to the CD? Using my iphone I record each voice part and convert the recording to an mp3 and burn each recording onto a CD-RW via iTunes. Some choir members complain that they can’t play the CD at all (I think older CD players have trouble playing burned CDs because the CDs will play in people’s car CD player) or that the audio “skips.” Any ideas? I wonder if it has anything to do with the speed I am burning the CDs at. Any ideas from the techies out there? Thanks!January 28, 2017 at 7:40 pm #534417Maggie FurtakParticipant
Is it possible to just send the files as mp3 via email attachment instead? Anyone who has itunes or something similar installed on their computer should be able to open and play them just by clicking on the attachment and following the prompts.
Idea two: record it as a video, instead of just audio, post it to youtube, and send them a link.
Idea three: find someone else’s youtube, who has already done all the hard work, and send them a link.
Also possible, if the people in question have their phones with them in rehearsal, you can suggest they stick around at the end of rehearsal or come early and let them each record for themselves while you play the piano. They can listen to it directly on their phones, if they can’t figure out how to get it onto their computers. If there are singers from multiple voice parts, you can just play the whole piece slowly, but also take a minute to slowly play isolated parts for the most troublesome spots. Depending how many people you are dealing with and how tech savvy they are, this could take forever, but if it’s just one or two folks, you can snatch their phones away, set them recording, and start playing.
Good luck!January 29, 2017 at 8:45 am #534421James MaroneyParticipant
The problem lies directly with your use of CD-RWs – many audio CD players don’t play them , esp. older units. Use CD-Rs – they’re much cheaper and easier to find anyway. Recording speed is not a factor.
Jim MaroneyJanuary 29, 2017 at 8:45 am #534424Simon LovelessParticipant
.cda is the format for CD audio tracks.
I record as mp3 using a Zoom H4, and then I use Windows Media Player to burn the tracks to CD – Windows Media Player automatically converts from mp3 to cda as part of the process.
I’ve never been told about anyone having trouble playing the CDs.January 29, 2017 at 8:46 am #534425David M. SpitkoParticipant
Hi Ron. The issue may be your use of an Apple product to create the CDs. Ask the people who are having difficulty if they are trying to listen to the rehearsal CD with a PC. I know Apple swears up and down that everything from their OSs are compatible. I find that sometimes they are not.
Just a thought.
DaveJanuary 29, 2017 at 11:34 am #534434Marie Grass AmentaModerator
It may be as simple as the brand of blank CDs you use. I had trouble initially with a similar problem. I stopped going to my local Walgreen’s to purchase whatever no-name CDs they had on sale and instead only use Memorex CD-R MUSIC blank CDs. Just bought 100 of them myself on Amazon for not very much. Since I have used the Memorex, I have had no complaints! 🙂
MarieJanuary 29, 2017 at 2:10 pm #534439Bill PaisnerParticipant
I agree that the problem is almost entirely the use of CD-RW disks. They have always been handled unreliably by CD players for as long as they (the disks) have been in existence. Switch to CD-R disks and I’ll bet your problems go away!
Bill PaisnerJanuary 29, 2017 at 10:54 pm #534459Jacob LevineParticipant
Ron, I’m the founder of Chorus Connection, so I spend a lot of timing working with choirs on how they can use technology to make life easier. In my experience, burning CDs is becoming much less common for a number of reasons. The main one: it’s time consuming to burn all those CDs! The good news is that you have a lot of choices if you decide you want to explore other options.
Quick note: I’m not a lawyer, so please don’t interpret this as legal advice, but as I understand copyright law, the distribution of rehearsal tracks technically requires mechanical licenses from music publishers. If you choose to distribute rehearsal tracks without getting the appropriate licenses, know that this puts you and your organization at some risk. How much risk depends on how public/private your method of distribution is.
1) As Maggie pointed out, you could always send music files as email attachments.
PROs: Free. (Almost) everyone has email. Private.
CONs: If you try to send an email that’s larger than 20-25MB, you’ll find that many email services will reject your email because it’s too large, meaning you may need to send multiple emails with attachments. That pretty much guarantees you’ll be getting emails from singers later on asking you if you can send an extra copy of the files because they’ve gotten lost.
2) As Maggie also pointed out, you could upload audio or video files to a public online service such as SoundCloud or YouTube.
PROs: Free. Easily accessible with just a link.
CONs: Public (posting on a public site without appropriate licenses puts you at the highest risk of legal action from music publishers).
3) There are a number of free online document storage tools like Dropbox and Google Drive that could allow you to share files online in a more private way.
PROs: Free. Sharing is relatively easy. Private (different levels of privacy depending on how you set it up).
CONs: Minimal, though depending on how you set it up, managing permissions can be a little tedious.
4) If there are other parts of managing your choir that you find tedious and time-consuming (e.g. calendar, attendance, membership dues, etc), you may want to consider looking at chorus management software. These tools make it easy to manage all parts of an organization through a single system that’s designed specifically for choirs. The most comprehensive (and expensive) examples are Chorus Connection (that’s my company) and Groupanizer. Less comprehensive (and cheaper) examples are HarmonySite and ChoirManager.
PROs: Private. Makes lots of aspects of choir management easier, not just file-sharing.
CONs: Cost money.
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