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Mendelssohn motets



Dear listers:

Here are the messages I received in response to my questions about
Mendelssohn choral pieces "Jauchzet dem Herrn alle Welt" and "Denn er
hat seinen Engeln befohlen":

Rebecca Replogle
Director of Choirs
Louisiana Tech University
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all I know is that he wrote a set of motets for the Berlin Cathedral
choir.
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Just in case you haven't gotten this answer from a jillion people
already:

> The second piece is titled "Denn
>er hat seinen Engeln befohlen".

The next two words are "|ber dir," right?

>From _Elijah_: "For He shall give his angels charge over thee."
(YES!
Authentic to do in English!!)

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I studied all of Mendelssohn's choral stuff while working on my
doctorate,
and among his misc. choral comps are a number of motets labeled as such.
See
my dissertation:-" A Study of the Use of the Chorale in the Works of
Mendelssohn, Brahms, and Reger"-
Robert Jordahl

jordahl321(a)earthlink.net
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I found the Mendelssohn choral setting in a Song book for services and
concerts with Brahms - Schubert - Mendelssohn pieces of CARUS Edition
Stuttgart (Germany) CV 2.081

Der hundertste Psalm (100th Psalm)",
Jubilate Deo omnis terra
opus 69, Nr.2
It is a SATB, only the finish is for 8 voices
You can have it as sheet music CV 40.126/20 (Carus Verlag)

"Denn er hat seinen Engeln befohlen".
Text of Psalm 91, 11-12
from the Oratorio Elias, Opus 70 (CV 40.130)
8 part SATB with organ

In this book are 37 pieces of Felix Mendelssohn
10 pieces of Johannes Brahms and 16 pieces of Franz Schubert.

Wenn you want to have a list of the Mendelssohn pieces you can mail me
und I
will send you a list!
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"Jauchzet dem Herrn alle Welt" figures as no. 16 in the Peter4s
collection of Mendelssohn4s Church music compilation (2 volumes). As far

as I know it is an independent piece. This collection (vol. 1: a
capella, vol. 2: choral works with organ) contains Mendelssohn4s
complete choral works, some of them with soloists. Order number 1770a
and 1770b.

"Denn er hat seinen Engeln befohlen" is a mouvement from Elias (here
with orchestra accompaniment). For the a capella version some few times
are changed or deleted to avoid breaks.
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Hello from Slovenia!

The Mendelsohn pieces, you mentioned, are not a part of any larger form.

Though he wrote quite a large number of such works. His religious a
capella
works can be found in a colection: Kirchenmusic Band II; Edition Peters
1770b. It contains 12 pieces and a cycle with 6 songs. they're all
mostly
written for 8 voices (SATB SATB or SSAATTBB) and soloists. The first
book
(1770a) includes choral pieces with organ. Surely worth to try both of
the
books. I performed with my choir 7 or 8 pieces, and are feeling sad,
'couse
there are so little of them.
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I know of a four-part "Jauchzet den Herrn" by Mendelssohn, but not an
eight-part one. I don't think any of Mendelssohn's motets or psalms were

published as sets (except for one set of 3 published in 1848). I suspect
the
piece you have comes from an anthology of choral music, and it is the
simply
the sixteenth piece in the book.

"Denn er hat seinen Engeln befohlen" is presumably "For he shall give
his
angels charge over thee" from "Elijah".
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you might have got some answers already, but I'll do my best, too:

Both pieces are not part of one set - they are quite separate works:
The Psalm 100 "Jauchzet dem Herren" is composed around 1842 and is an
independent choral work.
The charming "Denn er hat seinen Engeln befohlen" is one movement
(originally for 8 solo voices) from the oratorio "Elias" - with
orchestral
accompaniment but has proved as a popular work also in an arrangement
for
choir with organ or for choir a cappella.

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I know both pieces well; they are not part of a larger opus number, but
individual pieces belonging to a larger group of such pieces, many of
which
he wrote for the Domchor in Berlin. The second, you will be interested
to
know, is an a cappella version of one of the choruses in "Elijah", with
the
same text (in English, "For He shall give his angels charge over thee",
from
fairly early in Part I of the oratorio). I think it's one of his finest
pieces.

If you are looking for more Mendelssohn to do, you should look at the
Sechs
Sprueche, Op. 78 - six anthems for various days in the church year.
They
are fairly short, but most evocative and expressive of the texts.

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> "Denn er hat seinen Engeln befohlen"
is an a cappella setting from the oratorio Elias


> "Der hundertste Psalm (100th Psalm)"
has his No. 16 from the edition by Peters Nr. 1770b (a collection of
Mendelssohn
sacred choir music).
http://www.edition-peters.de/
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"Jauchzet dem Herrn alle Welt"
Mendelssohn wrote two SATB pieces with this title. One is op 69.2, but
because it is numbered "16" I do believe that this is _not_ the setting
you are talking about. The 2nd piece of this title does not carry an
opus number and is written in C major. There are many editions. One is
Edition Peters # 1770b, the title of the collection is "Mendelssohn,
Kirchenmusik, Band 2, Chorwerke a capella". There this "Jauchzet dem
Herrn alle Welt" is number 16.

"Denn
> er hat seinen Engeln befohlen"
Mendelssohn wrote and performed this piece of music after the King of
Prussia escaped an attempted assassination. Some years later he made
some minor modifications to the voices, added an orchestra part and
included it in his Elias (op 70).
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You have probably received numerous replies already, but if you
need
more info, here is a little on the Mendelssohn choral works you asked
about.
Mendelssohn set Psalm 100 two times: The first, a free-standing
(not
part of a series) setting probably composed in 1842. It can be found in

the Collected Works Series 14, No. 107a. It is a beautiful setting in C

major for four-part chorus, with a stunning middle section for eight
soloists. The second setting, composed in April 1847, is the second
piece of three in Opus 69. It is in A major for four-part a cappella
chorus. It is listed under Drei Motetten, and is subtitled Jubilate
Deo in the Collected Works, Series 14, No. 108a. Denn Er hat seinen
Engeln befohlen is the double quartet from the first part of Elijah -
Movement No. 7.

I hope you will perform them. Mendelssohn needs to be heard more in
this country.



on February 11, 2007 10:00pm
DO you know any source that compares the a capella choral works of Brahms and Mendelssohn? Or Do you have any info?